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Does anyone know what's "wais?"  I saw a wais client somewhere, the
compressed file is more than a meg.  Thanks!



Regrads,
Harrison Liang
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Pennsylvania State University
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Subject: Re: Visual Basic calling Winsock.DLL

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jon Lewis) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Jon Lewis)
>Subject: Re: Visual Basic calling Winsock.DLL
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:57:53 UNDEFINED
>
>>Well, I sure understand that . . . I had the same trouble a while ago,
>>then started using the VTSOCKET.VBX control from Visual Technology
>>Products.  Well worth $50.  The demo version, found at sunsite.unc.edu
>>nags a bit but is wholly usable.
>
>Is there any advantage in using vtsocket over vbwsk03?  The later is free.
>I'm possibly going to try using one over the summer when I actually have some
>time for programming projects.
>
>
>
>[e-mail]

I just sent in my $50 to register VTSOCKET.  Although the implementation of
VBWSK is nice, it doesn't work properly on my system.  (I'm running Novell
LAN WorkPlace for DOS.)  The basic problem is that the "Accept" event is
generated when an incoming connection is attempted, but when you tell it to
connect it doesn't!  I think this problem is probably native to the
combination of VBWSK and Lan WorkPlace, with the error probably being in
VBWSK.  I've never had any other problems with WinSock stuff, and VTSOCKET
works fine.

Remember, though, VBWSK is still in alpha testing.  Perhaps the 1.0 relase
will solve this problem.

                            - Rich

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Richard L. Ahrens                                   [e-mail]
Wharton School of Business                          University of Pennsylvania
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Subject: Latest version of winsock? (anyone have PCjr parts?)

Its hard to keep up with the 'latest' versions...
What is the latest (public) version of Trumpet Winsock?
Thanks.

James
 (Does anyone have Television adaptor or modem for the
  IBM PCjr? I'll buy 'em)
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Subject: Re: [Q] SENDMAIL for winsock ???

In article <2nauht$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark V. Grimes) writes:

>Does anyone know if there is a winsock version of the sendmail program.
>Nothing big just send mail using the SMTP or whatever protocal.

Yes and no. There was one out in beta that worked very nicely (has both POP3
and SMTP server as well as SMTP client). Unfortunately its author had to close
its beta testing to the general public. He is also not certain whether he will
be able to release it when it is done.

Author is: John Junod <[e-mail]>

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Subject: Re: More Eudora Questions!

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Joe Clark) writes:

>2. What's the difference between a nickname and a recipient?  Why the hell
>would I want to give someone a nickname and not check them as a potential
>recipient?  (Otherwise, their nickname/address doesn't show up anywhere else).

Precisely. I have a few dozen people listed as nicknames but only check a few
of them so I can mail to those people in a couple of mouse clicks. I don't
want to scroll through the whole list to find my most often used alias!

>3. What's the purpose of having more than one mailbox?  Personal/business/etc?
> Can you assign recipients to different mailboxes? Why make mailboxes into
>folders? (Does this mean SUBDIRECTORIES?? If I'd wanted MacIntrash Euphemisms

Yes. I have multiple mailboxes, one for each of the persons I mail to
regularly. I have other mailboxes for beta testing purpose, work purpose, etc.
This is where folders come in handy - personal, business, whatever. It is very
useful and all real mail programs (i.e. Lotus cc:Mail) have it.

>OK, OK, I know I'm ranting.  Someone please point me toward some
>documentation on this thing; otherwise it's back to QVTNet, which has fewer

PC-Eudora 1.4 is the free version, you don't get much with that. For
documentation and support, you will need to purchase the commercial version.
Details are available by anonymous ftp from ftp.qualcomm.com.

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Subject: Looking for list of good IRC sites

Can someone tell me a couple of good IRC sites?  Thanks in advance.

-Lou
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Subject: WANTED: Combination 3270 and regular telnet in ONE!

I am looking for a winsock client that has the ability to handle both 3270
and regular telnet ablitities.  I have WS3270 and Trumpet Telnet but I would
prefer a client that has both in one.  Any suggestions on where to find
one?  Thanks in advance.

-Lou
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Subject: -=[Wussy sort of TCP/IP question]=-

Someone tell me if this is right.

I have a network packet driver under DOS which is allowing my computer to
communicate with my network card. When WinSock runs under Windows it creates a
TCP/IP stack which allows programs to communciate via TCP protocol to the
packet driver. Is this all WinSock is doing? or is there a bit more to it?

Also can I get a TCP/IP stack to run under DOS? Would this be a replacement
for WinSock if I ran the TCP/IP stack under DOS and used some modified version
of winpkt.com to allow the virtual machine handling for the DOS stack? Would
this allow DOS programs to communicate via TCP/IP if they do not contain their
own stack (NCSA has its own but I want to use something diff.)?

Dont flame me if I've got this all wrong. Im just a tad confused at this point
and would welcome any advice.
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Subject: Re: Microsoft VxD TCP/IP

In article <2ncd4j$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Steve Eckhardt) says:
>
>We just received the new Microsoft TCP/IP.  It works better than the previous
>one.  (We have one very finicky app that we'd like to run off a LM server.)
>The only problem we've found so far is that ping doesn't use DNS; you must
>use the numerical address.  The telnet isn't included in the beta, either.
>I expect they will just update the Terminal applet to use TCP/IP as they did
>in NT.  Every Winsock app we've tried runs just fine.  It sure is nice to have
>600k free again.

Arrgh! We did find one little? bug since I posted this.  The computer reboots
after Print Manager finishes a job. :-\  The printout comes out fine, though.
All of our printers are accessed through a LanMan server, and all are
connected via TCP/IP.  Hope they're working on this one.
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Subject: Re: Plain Windows 3.1(1) MS TCP-32 VxD beta Winsock

[e-mail] wrote:
: This might be a silly question, anyway:

: Is the (very much discussed) MS TCP-32 VxD beta Winsock
: to be used only with Windows for Workgroups?

: What about plain Windows 3.1(1), is this not sufficient?

: I guess any answeres would be interesting to others than myself!

It can be used only with WFW 3.11. It is an NDIS 3.0 compliant protocol
stack, and only WFW 3.11 (as far as I know) supports NDIS 3.0. For the
record: WinNT supports NDIS 3.0 too, but it already has TCP/IP :-).

-- Mike
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Subject: Re: Where to get MS TCP-32 VxD beta Winsock


In article <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> What exactly would this package allow me to do that Trumpet Winsock doesn't?
>
> Mike
> [e-mail]

Perhaps nothing, perhaps less (e.g. WS_PING doesn't work with it).
Trumpet Winsock seems excellent, mature, and well supported. The main
interest, in my personal opinion, in the VxD implementation is the
32-bit protected mode operation, i.e. NO "real mode" (DOS) drivers
load. This frees up low memory (the 640k etc. of DOS), this is the
area Windows uses for resource management, running out of space here
is the main reason you see an "Out of Memory" error even though you
have 16Mb RAM and only 2Mb of programs loaded. The VxD consumes NO low
memory, only loading in Windows when an app calls it, and then only
consuming about 59k of memory (2/3 of which is discardable) - compared
with >600k of memory for a calling app like Mosaic. The other benefit
is potentially faster and more reliable operation. And of course, there's
the future... once we're in Chicago (Windows 4.0) and beyond there won't
be a DOS to load the real mode packet drivers in - it'll all be 32-bit
protected mode VxD's. All in all, though if it ain't broke, don't fix
it! If you like what you've got, enjoy!

Personally, I long for Valhala (it just past Chicago):

TelNet  - just a selection in the Terminal program, TCP/IP right after Com4:
FTP     - just a selection button in File Manager's Connect Net Drive...
FTPd    - just a selection button in File Manager's Share As...
e-mail  - I just enter the SMTP addresses in MS Mail's personal address
          book; my mailing lists include mixes of internet, fax, an WFW
lpr/lpd - Print Manager takes care of it all
talk    - when my WFW Chat phone rings it might be internet from Australia

Yeah, OK, I'm a dreamer... but it is conceivable that all rudimentary stuff
COULD be included in Chicago with the integration of the VxD winsock, and
we could have Windows for World Wide Workgroups (WFWWW)... and maybe
we'll only pay less than $100.00 for the upgrade. Programmers could pursue
"fun" stuff like Mosaic and Cello and Trumpet. Imagine DDE on the internet:
a system manager in DesMoines changes and IP address and an FTP site list
on archie.au automatically updates before the users' eyes in Mosaic.

Doug "If you're going to dream, dream BIG!"
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Clearly, ALL these opinions and conjectures are my own.
(Valhala?!? Be real, who else would claim THAT!)

P.S. I'm forwarding a copy to [e-mail]. Hope the hot-shots
in Redmond forgive me for any misinformation or misconceptions on my part:
if there are mistakes they're honest ones.
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Subject: Re: Plain Windows 3.1(1) MS TCP-32 VxD beta Winsock


In article <2neg58$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
> This might be a silly question, anyway:
>
> Is the (very much discussed) MS TCP-32 VxD beta Winsock
> to be used only with Windows for Workgroups?
>
> What about plain Windows 3.1(1), is this not sufficient?
>
> I guess any answeres would be interesting to others than myself!
>
> Thanx
>
There are NO silly questions! (But stupid answers are always possible.)
I think it is specific to Windows for Workgroups 3.11.
Doug